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The club is great, the members are wonderful and the idea is super – Lets save GIN!
As I had to come to believe, the only or at least main cause, in my opinion, for the potential downfall of GIN is Kevin Trudeau. Before you make any comments on this, simply ask the questions I suggest and make your mind up based on facts, not on an emotional basis. Just ask for the facts to be revealed to you.
To prove to you that I have no personal agenda or gain with my following actions, I hereby state that I do not want to be a part of this. You beloved friends and fellow GIN brothers and sisters are the true owners of this wonderful club. YOU need to take charge now to save it and in my opinion Kevin Trudeau needs to go and he needs to go fast, NOW! GIN is your club, not Kevin’s as he stated so often lately. Let’s ask Ron Ball to run our club! (I have not ask Ron about this yet it is just my personal Idea he does not know about my suggestion at all) The reason for me to write the following is based on my feeling of responsibility to the wonderful people that joined GIN because of me and to my personal down line. Let’s save GIN together!
Based on conversations with main staff members, I came to the conclusion that possible fraudulent activities and greed within the leadership of GIN are potentially destroying our so beloved club! That led me to ask the following questions:
- Is the financial situation of GIN is troublesome?. (Does the wasting of money needs to stopped now? )
- Are potentially other companies and or their expenses and losses paid from GIN funds? Such as the KTs Daily supplement line, Natural Cures Promotions or is maybe even the 2 million dollar bond for a new infomercial paid from GIN founds? (Can we see the books?)
- Has Kevin Trudeau’s Bentley (or maybe its realistically the GIN’s Bentley) (est. $400,000) been paid from GIN funds? (What about the other cars?) Do you think all of Kevin’s vacations are business expenses?
- Is it true that KT paid from GIN funds the $ 10,000 dollar per night hotel room in Las Vegas, and the private plane flight to get there (est. $23,000 each way in my experience) was also paid from GIN founds, while, in the meantime, Kevin is telling the GIN speakers and others, that GIN is millions “in the red” and has to save money?
- Is it true that most of Kevin Trudeau’s personal, elaborate lifestyle has been financed from the member owned nonprofit organization GIN, funds?
- Is Kevin Trudeau’s wife, Natalie Babenko, is the owner on paper of GIN?
- Is it true that GIN does not have the money to pay all bills due for bonuses or other outstanding liability’s, commitments or bills?
- Is it true that there are between 2.5 million to 4 million dollars’ worth of lazy man and or hot leads are still to fulfill? And is it true that they cannot be fulfilled or that there is not enough money to pay back the money for the paid orders for lazy man and hot leads?
- That the Inner Circle Principle has been tapped into?
- Are there any official investigation into Kevin Trudeau’s wife Natalie Babenko?
I believe GO 5 Star would be the best event to ask for the following answers:
Kevin, all we want is answers, not promises or excuses!
Questions I would ask:
1. Since we are a member owned club, why have we never voted on anything and no access to the accounting or financial information?
2. How come only Kevin makes the rules and changes them as he pleases without asking us, the members and therefore club owners?
3. What are the original founding documents saying, so that we know how to vote Kevin Trudeau out of indirectly owning, controlling, running and possibly ruining our wonderful club and possibly profiting personally from it?
4. Since Inner Circle and Platinum Members are paid from a percentage of incoming founds should they not ask to see the books to make sure they would be paid in an appropriate manner?
5. Why was the first group of inner circle members told there will be only 100 members sharing 2%, and its seems it ended up being 107? Now, is it 107 members sharing the same 2%.?
6. Present the original founding documents of GIN. Where are they? Is Natalie Babenko the owner on paper?
7. Can you give us any proof that the GIN council, the way it was represented to us, exists? How much money did they put into GIN and where is it?
I am personally convinced (so are many others) that there is no such thing as this GIN council built from Billionaires, Members of the Bilderberg Group or Council of Foreign Relations with massive amount of celebrities etc., and that Kevin Trudeau was never a part of any major secret society that supplied him with major contacts or secret information, so can you proof that to me that I am wrong with my conclusions and my doubts? Since I am personally convinced that there is no GIN council the way it was presented, could it be true that there is no financial backing from billionaires and no secret information coming from them that could be revealed to GIN members and that there are no major secrets that will be revealed to us from the secrets of a so called brotherhood, that Kevin supposedly belonged too? Can you poof to me that the club was not like it seems founded and based on false representation, deception, misleading lies and maybe even fraudulent statements? Should we ask the government to help us get these answers?
8. If there is a GIN council where is the money that they brought in and what is the secret information that Kevin promised us to give to us the GIN members when we became a part of this club?
9. How much money from the GIN funds has been spent directly or indirectly for and because of Kevin Trudeau for personal or private use?
10. Since it seems Kevin Trudeau, or his behavior, or decisions could be the main threat to the future existence of GIN, and since he states anyway that he is only a speaker for GIN, not owner or Manager or Officer, why does he not simply step aside and is showing us the books and the true financial statements, and let a man like Ron Ball, that we all love and trust, run and hopefully save our club? Yes there are builders and destroyers, why don’t we support the builders and get rid of the destroyers? WE are the builders!
11. Why are bonuses or commissions often not paid or not paid on time?
12. Why are so many Lazy Man orders and Hot Leads that many paid for, as it seems some even 2 years ago, still not fulfilled today? How much money does GIN owe to these people that bought and paid for a product that does not exist or has not been delivered?
13. Can you prove to us that GIN has the money to pay all debt and bonuses owed, like the summer sales bonanza, Level 5, Founders Bonus etc.?
14. Is the *(GIN store) financed from GIN funds? ( est over $500 000 ) *edited - name removed as requested.
15. How much money did GIN bring in up until today and where is all of the money? What was it spent for?
16. If GIN is a member owned club, how come we never voted on anything? And why is Kevin as it seems, the only one making all major and final decisions alone? Why is he the only one having all these luxury perks and he and his minions but not all of us? Why is Kevin the one flying the private planes and driving luxury cars that are potentially could be paid for by GIN funds and not all of us, too? Did he tell us the last 5 weeks or so, that he is not an owner, not an officer, etc., of GIN? So why does he get all the perks that the entire membership deserves to enjoy?
17. Is it true that affiliates were taken from members down lines without their knowledge to fulfill Lazy Man and or Hot Lead orders?
18. Is it true that the commission payment plan was changed?
19. Where are the luxury mansions, the yachts, or private planes that GIN is supposedly supplying to all of us? Where did all the money go?
20. Why cannot Ron Ball, someone we all love and trust, run GIN?
21. If Deno Andrews is the official Director, why is he not the ONLY decision maker, since he basically stated that Kevin is the only one making all the main decisions, why is he, Deno the director?
22. If I would have paid for Inner Circle membership or Level Upgrades, or membership fees based on deception, misrepresentation, misleading statements or other potentially unlawful actions, is this is the case, do I not have the right to get my money back?
23. It was rumored that Dr. Morter Sr. wanted Kevin to step down and take over the leadership. Is that true?
24. How come Kevin Trudeau seems to be the only one that decides for what GIN funds have been spent? How is that lawful that a nonprofit member owned club that is not built to enrich any single member seems to supply only one member with a life of luxury, while other members are having a hard time paying their rent or bills?
25. Why don’t we have an independent accounting company check into the GIN finances and eliminate all the potential rumors or financial threats? What is there to hide or lose by allowing us to be able to check and understand the entire financial situation of GIN, and to find out if just one person is potentially responsible for the potential downfall of our beloved club?
26. Why can’t we have all the facts now, while GIN may still be able to be saved?
27. How do we, the members and owners, vote to get rid of Kevin’s control over our club? How do we vote on: Kevin needs to go!? Because since he is as he stated himself only a speaker, not and owner or officer in the club, why in the world does he have more rights than we do? Does it not seem that Kevin is the only real, potential problem for the future existence of GIN to you too? Isn’t getting rid of the root cause of the problem the only way to go?
28. I would like to know if Kevin did sign over, GIN or founds or property to his wife Natalie Babenko when he just went to the Ukraine, and if it is true that he did set Deno Andrews up as the fall guy, as many believe?
Let’s save GIN! I would tell them: Kevin needs to go! If you agree with me, call GIN’s customer service and the GIN office and tell them Kevin needs to go and to ask for answers to this first series of questions (more to come) or if they don’t answer your questions about your OWN member owned club, I would tell them: Kevin needs to go! Personally I would ask for a refund if I would be owed any money or products or ask for a sworn affidavit stating the date and time when your order will be fulfilled. If we really want to save GIN, then I believe time is of the essence, and we need to act fast! Personal emails can be written to Kevinneedstogo@gmail.com
I personally guess that someone will say, yes we will answer these questions, but it is very complicated, we have to look into that and that all needs to take time ( a very long time ) – No it doesn’t to hire a forensic accountant can be done in days. If we are serious in our approach to save GIN I believe we need to act fast! Very Fast! My dear friend, Matthew LoCicero told me he thinks all the commission payment problems and irregularities could be easily fixed with the right software. Let’s ask him for help, too. Let’s ask Dr. Morter Sr. if he is willing to help with his experience. Let’s vote on a new Director! I suggest Ron Ball. By the way: How can we after close to 3 years of existence with about est 22 000 members and about 40 000 affiliates and all the millions made, still be: At the beginning of the beginning?
Here is just one example of what people truly think: I may post a couple of hundreds later.
Beginning of quote: “Hello (name withheld),
My husband and I have been members since 2009 and have been to many of your lectures and you have always been very truthful to us and the responses back and forth between you and Debi seemed very real and genuinely honest
We feel as though since we both have joined GIN in 2009, we have gotten a lot of wonderful educational trainings from you and others and are very grateful for the opportunity that GIN provided for us but we now feel the club has taken a new direction and is not the same club as we once knew. It’s main focus is now on obtaining new members and so therefore the educational segments have truly suffered over the last year and a half. In fact, over two and a half months ago, when I listened to a weekly audio of Kevin’s, he stated that if we weren’t willing to work the affiliate program that we need not bother coming to Vegas for dream weekend. Needless, to say we didn’t go! I don’t listen to the weekly audios anymore because we feel as though Kevin comes across as being very angry and we find his behavior very negative, insulting and demeaning. He has a tendency to call people idiots, morons, etc. We pay $150.00 per month for this??? You have always taught us whenever we encounter negativity to say… cancel….cancel. You call us champions and he calls us idiots…..where’s the love and respect anyways??
At this time, we feel as though we have outgrown GIN and may soon depart from the club. We feel it’s time to move on. We are not getting any valuable information or educational type lectures much anymore and that was mainly our reasons for joining the club in 2009 and also meeting likeminded people. We have met some wonderful people and will always treasure them as our dear friends! But, as we depart, it will be rather bittersweet to say the least as you can imagine. This was the best club in the world in the beginning and we will always be very thankful and grateful to have had the pleasure and experience in getting to know you and what you stand for. You are all about truth and integrity! I can really feel it in my heart that what GIN has become has also affected you tremendously because you can’t be “you” anymore and that is a very sad issue for all of us that have come to know you and love you as much as we do.
In closing, I just want to say that hopefully our paths will somehow cross again and we’ll meet in the near future! Maybe when we are in Charleston again….we can hook up and have some bourbons with you! Take care! Please don’t ever lose sight of the love that you have for people because IT truly is YOU!!
Love and light,” ( End of quote )
So I believe all they have left now is to attack the messenger, since the message itself cannot be attacked and/or maybe the answers cannot be or will not be supplied to us. I believe their only approach to derail from the real problem, (as I believe is Kevin Trudeau), is to attack the messenger. But remember, I or anybody else, have nothing to do with what was done or is and will be done with the GIN money! I personally have nothing to gain by trying to help you, my dear GIN brothers and sisters to save GIN, besides stress and fights.
I hope it works out well for all of us and we can save our club! So let’s all come together my dear GIN brothers and sisters, and make this the largest and best member owned club in the world ever. YOU guys need to be in charge and get into the control and power positions! My motto from now on is: WE are GIN and Kevin needs to go!
I love you all, and again thank you for your massive outpour of support.
All the above is based on personal opinion, conversations with staff members, members and personal research. It is based on my personal conclusion and the use of common sense. It is just my opinion! But I may be right! If needed, more questions and substantiation will follow.
As potential officers for GIN I would suggest Ron Ball – as director, Matthew LoCicera, Michael Jaspen, Marjorie Alayon, Dr Morter Sr, Roevel M. Guzman, and the 12 highest money makers in the club. As control officer, I would suggest Abe Hussein. As advisory council, I would suggest: Theresa Dale, Dr Sherrie Tenpenny, Mary Miller, Juanita Ecker. and Dr Ron Jahner, as well as Bob Trudeau.
Monday, May 21, 2012
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