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GIN Store operators Greg and Wayne Kramer panicking!
Having bought goods from the GIN store when I was on the 2012 cruise, it comes as no surprise that people are waking up to their overpriced rubbish. Moreso, it comes as no surprise that they are now panicking with news getting out of their failing operations, as well as some very dodgy business practices. Their latest scumbag activities involve firing staff without notice, and telling one single mom they will fight her on her unemployment claims!
The saga continues and starts to take fruition, as it reaches outwards towards GIN associated businesses. The Kramers, who run the GIN Store, are literally begging Abe Husein to take down his posts on Facebook, regarding the very recent firing of GIN Store staff. The store is losing business rapidly and the Kramers are still trying to cover their lying asses in the vain hope of continuing to keep money owed to present and past members. (Don’t forget to do those chargebacks folks!)
Below are screen shots and copied texts from the Facebook communications between Abe Husein, The Kramers, Peter (I was in on the con for a while) Wink, and Herr-not-a-doktor Leonard Coldwell.
It’s interesting reading, and quite long, so go grab a cup of your favourite drink and settle in! Damn, this is better than Twilight! Some parts edited from the original posts due to language and unconnected commentary.
Well, I was going to post the screen shots of each conversation, but all the above says it pretty well. Below is a screen shot regarding the firing of the single mom:
Sorry if this all comes out in a bit of a jumble, but this news came so fast at me that I haven’t had much time to go through it all and piece it together in order, but I’m sure you get the picture.
The Kramers are trying to deny accountability, but with staff being fired without warning and their chief accounting officer walking out, they know they are walking a very tight line and a very thin one at that.
As Peter Wink pointed out, GIN Store is a separate entity from GIN, but is under contract to Kevin Trudeau/Natalie Babenko, the owners of GIN. Therefore, the Kramers are just as guilty of fraud.
I was going to request a charge back for the crappy ‘silk’ tie I paid for and the two rings that turned green on my fingers within an hour or so of putting them on, but I think I’ve got more chance of winning the Spanish Lotto without buying a ticket!
To the Kramers: Do the right thing! Give those you fired their unemployment, fix your accounting practices and do business fairly by giving people what they paid for!! Ah, but it’s too late for any of that! The FTC and others will be very interested in looking at your accounts I’m sure. Should have sent Lazyman’s out when people paid for them, instead of holding back. And when people ask for refunds, you really are under a legal obligation to give them back when you don’t deliver your products! Have fun in court boys - I hear it’s a lot of fun in America!
(Oh, and just in case you’re wondering fellas, you can claim libel against me if you like, I don’t give a Rats-In-Your-Head-Ass, mainly because I really hate scammers and partly because I live in a country where opinion is welcomed as free speech! So you guys can kiss my green ring - after all, it’s from your store!)
GIN Store losing business, Fires single mom!
Wednesday, February 13, 2013
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Abe Husein
32 minutes ago
WAYNE AND GREG KRAMER!!! I suggest you follow Dean Andrews lead and talk with the FTC and give them everything they need to know. They are mainly after Kevin but they will no doubt take you out on their way to get Kevin if you do not give them what they need. You brought all this upon yourselves!! The attorney general of Indiana will also be getting involved with this. I suggest you give that x staff member you just fired (without notice or good cause) her unemployment that she deserves!!
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Peter Wink posted to Abe Husein
5 hours ago
Miss.XXXXX ACCUSES GIN STORE OWNER WAYNE KRAMER OF HOSTILE TREATMENT TOWARD WOMEN!
I talked to Miss.XXXXX today and I was appalled when she told me that Wayne, who claims to be a good Christian, humiliated her and treated her and many of her colleagues so ruthlessly. As a good Christian, I figured he knew better. I won't be surprised if there's a boycott by women against the GIN Store. I really hope what she said is not true --- though her tears seemed real enough to me. There's nothing more important to preserve and protect than a single mother and her children.
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Abe Husein and 2 others like this.
Abe Husein This madness has to stop!! Wayne, Greg Kramer and the rest of the cons need to be put in their place!! And that is excatly what is going to happen! I am makingg sure of it!!
4 hours ago via mobile · Like · 5
Abe Husein
6 hours ago via Mobile
WAYNE AND GREG KRAMER!!! You lying, con artists, snake oil salesman, fraudsters!!! I have reported u to Judge Gettleman and the FTC attorney's for being apart of all the fraud and for being a place for Kevin Trudeau to hide his money from the government! U will be exposed!! 2 of your staff members have told me everything I need to know to put u away with Kevin!!
Justice will be served!!!
Abe Husein Yes, he runs the GIN store. His whole family does.
6 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1
Amy xxxxxx speechless.
6 hours ago · Like · 1
Amy xxxxxxx My mom was a visionary for GIN, can she get her money back?
6 hours ago · Like · 1
Abe Husein I think I will try and make a new news series or story. Featuring Wayne and Greg Kramer!
6 hours ago via mobile · Like · 3
Leonard Coldwell Nmd Phd Ever heard of the Rico Act? That is what will hit all of them
5 hours ago · Like · 3 (Hopefully it’ll hit you too Coldwell you lying scumbag! - Editor)
Peter Winkposted to Abe Husein
7 hours ago
A PERSONAL MESSAGE TO ALL THE SINGLE MOMS OUT THERE ABOUT Miss.XXXXX, FORMER GIN STORE EMPLOYEE ---
Miss.XXXXX is a broke single mom with two kids to take care of. No help from anyone. Her family lives hand to mouth. Today when we talked she was hysterical and crying. And she told me that GIN Store owner Wayne Kramer told her that he will fight her measly unemployment. Now I ask all you single moms out there, how do you think this will affect Miss.XXXXX and her family? Just another example of a cold heartless boss screwing over a defenseless, helpless woman who is powerless. Would a good Christian fight a single mom's unemployment? Would a good Christian fire someone for granting a customer a justified refund? We are going to follow this all the way through and she will get her due. Miss.XXXXX the FTC and IL Attorney General await you! You will be fine!
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John xxxxxxxx Hopefully she's in a state where the fired person has good rights, but if not then when word of the FTC and AG stepping in comes, I'm sure she will get the unemployment she has coming to her.
Elizabeth xxxxxxxxx I was a single mom of 2 for years and feel for her. I hope that within this unique, epic case she not only gets her unemployment but other compensation for the stress, poor treatment and criminal atmosphere.
3 hours ago · Like · 3
Abe Husein I will make sure she gets justice!!
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Abe Husein shared a link.
7 hours ago
GIN staff and leaders seek their own justice!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpQ7AXhLsbU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Peter Winkposted to Abe Husein
7 hours ago
THE GIN STORE CORRUPTION "THEY" DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT!
First off, let's set the record straight. The GIN Store and the Global Information Network are technically two separate entities on paper, until one takes a closer look like the FTC wisely did. GIN is owned solely by Kevin and Natalie Trudeau. The GIN Store by Wayne Kramer.
According to Deno Andrews, the Kramers had no start up capital, and GIN members unknowingly invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and inventory to launch the GIN Store.
Now you may be wondering why the GIN Store was ever created in the first place. Good question. We could have easily sold the GIN tools in house, except for one teeny problem. According to Dean "Deno" Andrews, the GIN Store was only created by Kevin Trudeau because he couldn't obtain a local merchant account for processing all the tool orders. Banks hate Kevin Trudeau. It is also a way to easily clean money and direct it where needed. That is numero-uno here for everyone who wonders why Kevin Trudeau wanted this separated from the rest of the GIN business. Hopefully this makes sense.
In other news...
ANOTHER GIN STORE EMPLOYEE GETS FIRED
Abe I was just contacted by someone named Mr.XXXXXX who was just fired from the GIN Store. He told me that GIN Store employees were terminated by Wayne and Brandon Kramer for giving refunds to customers who purchased trash Hot Lead names. He said that employees were instructed that nobody gets refunds even if the names are bad. When I worked for GIN, I was instructed by Kevin Trudeau to give the GIN Store incomplete contact names that did not have all their information like they were supposed to get as well as names of people who got Your Wish added to other orders for as little as $8.00. These are awful leads. Many of the names given to the GIN Store were customers that did not actually order Your Wish but they added it to their credit card. All the FTC has to do is pull the merchant account records and they will see hundreds of customer chargebacks from this. It is all there in black and white. I was also told to write false untested ads that were going to be used in the Hot Lead Generator program. I have the proof of all this.
Any other questions?????
Abe Husein BRAVO!! Bravo!! Well said PW!! The FTC has Kevin and GIN on a silver platter now. They will freeze all GIN accounts and all the current members will loose all their money. This is no joke!
6 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2
Roberto xxxx This is better entertainment than the 2012 Mayan Prophecy :)))
6 hours ago · Like · 5
Abe Husein
9 hours ago
GIN UPDATE!! I was just contacted by yet another x GIN store staff member. This is what they had to say regarding GIN,
"I was working with the gin store last spring to help them open a warehouse gin store in France but they started acting secretive with me and never closed the deal. They were very reluctant to give me reasons why they didn't want to open a warehouse in Europe as planned. I was working with their warehouse manager (name removed). They also said they moved to a larger location in south Indiana but I couldn't verify since I was in ***. I also kept trying to schedule appointments to visit their site but they kept putting me off. It's funny how they acted with me since they knew I was in gin at the time. I first met them at dream weekend. Vegas. I'm glad I cancelled all my auto ships with them last summer when I started hearing from you and dr C"
GIN is crumbling! Those that still remain will be left with their money being stolen away and there will be nothing they can do about it!
Leonard Coldwell Nmd Phd Yes Gin is at the end as well as Kevin Trudeau - everybody still signing new members up will be held responsible too I am sure of this What? Like you were sure Trudeau was going to jail last October? Like you were sure the 2013 cruise wouldn’t happen? Pffft! - Editor
7 hours ago · Like · 1
Gary Carlyle Cook I got an email from them within the last few days saying they have a new baccarat system that 100% makes money. I think that is impossible.
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Abe Husein
13 hours ago via Mobile
I would like to publicly thank the GIN staff member who reached out to me yesterday and shared some very disturbing inside info with me!! Everything they said confirms what I have been saying all along. So much fraud!! The GIN store is laying off people due to lack of business and they r trying to make it to where employee's don't get unemployment.
They have all the credit card info of GIN member...See more
Rhonda xxxxxx What about Brandy? She seems to be a hardcore kool aid drinker. Will she we sinking with the ship? (Despite knowing what’s been going on all along, she has chosen to stay with GIN and continues to be part of the fraud. No sympathy for her! - Ed)
Abe Husein She is scamming people right along side kevin! I was sent screen shot yesterday of bank account info from the UK where Brandy is telling people to send 15k for a "training seminar" by kevin that isn't going to take place till April! Kevin will most likely be in jail by then! I garentee they won't be refunding the 15k either.
12 hours ago via mobile · Unlike · 5
Peter Wink Send everything to the FTC Abe
12 hours ago · Like · 2
Peter Wink They already have the audio.
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Gabriel xxxxxxx WTF is KT talking about in his latest recording about making tons of money gambling... I thought he is broke. Which is it? If you can make a much money as he claims, I hope he is doing that now, so he can get himself out of debt, right?
10 hours ago · Edited · Like · 1
Peter Wink KTs system does not even work. I know exactly what he's talking about. It is actually an old system hes calling his own but will not work or everyone would have been using it.
10 hours ago · Like · 1
Abe Husein The GIN store employee was let go without any notice at all. She was a model employee. Never been written up or anything. And thats how GIN treats her.
9 hours ago · Like · 2
Mike xxxxxxxx If it worked all he would have to do is go to a Casino and win the 37 million to pay the fine.
9 hours ago · Like
Mike xxxxxxxx Casinos keep close watch on people using a system.. counting etc..
9 hours ago · Like
John Ginga Ky is full of it as usual <--- THIS IS SARAH J. BARENDESE with a false FB account!
8 hours ago via mobile · Like
Natalie Ozga-Lazarz Omg seriously!!! Get a life <-- We have one - it’s called informing others while you do absolutely nothing but sit watching people get ripped off! - Editor.
5 hours ago via mobile · Like
Abe Husein Baaaaa... baaaaaa... who opened the door and let the sheep in here??!!
5 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1
Natalie Ozga-Lazarz Gin is retarded but must you constantly make it your status update. <-- there’s a button on your Facebook...it’s called the UNFRIEND or HIDE button! Use it before whining!
5 hours ago via mobile · Like
Abe Husein Yes I must. People depend on this news.
4 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1
Nathan xxxxxx Yea I figured the money from members is drying up since I havent seen any of the print newsletters in my mailbox since Nov.
2 hours ago · Like · 1
Cherry xxxxxx And he's still at it; I received a message about a "secret code" that will cost you.....(drum roll please)......$15,000.00...lol